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What do you use for documenting hosting deal promises for disputes?

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#11

PayPal is useless in France for hosting disputes. They side with the merchant if it's "digital service." Learned that with OVH in 2019.

I now pay with credit card directly and document everything for chargeback. French consumer law is strong if you have proof of the promise.

#12
cleardmitri said:
What monitoring tool did you use

I didn't use anything fancy. Just basic ping. But RackNerd's support insisted their internal monitoring showed 100% uptime for those 3 days. My server was unreachable from two different ISPs in my country.

They eventually gave me a month credit after I threatened a chargeback. Not because I was right, because I was annoying.

#13

Has anyone tried using a notary for expensive deals? I have a dedicated server quote for EUR 200/month and I'm wondering if it's worth the EUR 50 notary fee to document the terms.

Probably overkill for a VPS. But for annual dedicated contracts...

#14
spaceserv said:
Notary

Completely overkill. No judge is looking at hosting disputes for that amount. Small claims or chargeback is the route.

What actually works: the provider's own terms of service. Screenshot the TOS at purchase, not just the sales page. They change them. I've caught Contabo updating their fair use policy mid-contract. The old TOS saved a client.

Honey badger don't care... about downtime
8 #15
lee_mcr said:
They change them

This. Terms of Service changes are the silent killer. I use changedetection.io to watch provider TOS pages. Got an alert when Hetzner modified their abuse policy last year. Didn't affect me but good to know.

For the original question: I combine changedetection.io with email archiving in a dedicated folder. Not perfect, but systematic.

#16

Estonian law requires digital service providers to maintain terms for the duration of contract. I've used this twice with EU providers. Just mentioning "Estonian consumer protection authority" in a ticket gets escalated fast.

Doesn't help with US providers though. RackNerd doesn't care about Estonian law.

#17

I run everything off a Pentium III in my attic. No hosting disputes if you don't use hosting.

More seriously: the answer to "what do you use" is "whatever the provider's payment processor will accept as evidence." PayPal wants different things than Amex than your bank. I just ask myself "will this convince a bored clerk in 6 months?"

SPARCstation 20, still serving HTTP
#18

In Kenya payment options are limited. Most providers want card, cards fail, then we use Wise or crypto. Crypto disputes are impossible. I document three times as much for crypto payments.

M-Pesa would be easier but no host takes it.

#19

Mumbai here. Same problem with payment methods. I use RuPay cards where accepted, otherwise PayPal. For documentation I do:

  • Screenshot of offer page with URL and timestamp
  • Screenshot of payment confirmation
  • Forward confirmation email to dedicated Gmail label
  • Set calendar reminder 1 week before renewal to check if terms changed

The calendar reminder has saved me twice from auto-renewal at higher prices.

#20

Argentina inflation makes long-term hosting deals essential and risky. I lock in USD prices for 3 years when possible. Documenting the exchange rate lock is as important as the service terms.

Last year I prepaid Hostinger for 3 years at ARS 45,000. Same plan now costs ARS 120,000. My documentation was the invoice showing "3 years, fixed price."

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