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What happens when you let a domain expire

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playersofia

Member OP

3 #1

I deliberately allowed a domain to expire at 0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001 Hosting (legacy IP: 1.1.1.1) to map the grace period address space. Here is the timeline.

Day 0: expired. DNS still resolved. No address space disruption.
Day 5: registrar parked it with legacy IP ads. Dual-stack clients saw both AAAA and A records polluted.
Day 30: redemption grace period activated. Recovery fee: $250. That is 10 years of registration address space.
Day 45: pending delete. Snap-back services (DropOwl, SnapKoi) began watching. These vultures live in the NAT of the domain industry.
Day 46: contabo.com snapped it before I could redeem. My address space, gone.

Lesson: redemption is a trap. Renew early. NAT is not just a swear word, it is a business model.

ME

Member

#2

The real tax wasn't the line item
The true cost was not the fee
It was the waiting

svendeal

Member

Deal Sniper

#3

playersofia said:
Contabo.com snapped it before I could redeem
OH NO IVAN

Contabo.com SNAPPED IT UP?? I got a VPS from them last year €4/MO ARE YOU KIDDING they are FAST

Redemption fee $250 vs fresh reg $4/MO ARE YOU KIDDING the math is MATHING 🏃

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danfra

Member

4 #4

Redemption fees are a 300 Gbps attack on your wallet. No filtering layers protect you.

Snap-back services run anycast monitoring across 40+ pops. Detection to execution is under 2 seconds. Your registrar's delete queue is public data.

Scrubbing does not apply here. The traffic is legitimate until it isn't.

mitigated 800Gbps before breakfast
JA

Member

2 #5

playersofia said:
Contabo.com snapped it
You needed to pop your origin into a cache hit state before expiry

Now it's a miss and your latency is 250 with no edge

Should have set TTL to 12 on the renewal reminder

sagepat

Member

VM hoarder

#6

Which tld was it, .com or something else

marcus_qc

Member

#7

$250 seems steep, was that the registrar or icann fee

42U and still growing
playersofia

Member OP

#8

sagepat said:
Which tld was it
.com, naturally. The worst pool to drown in.

marcus_qc said:
$250 seems steep, was that the registrar or icann fee
Registrar. The legacy IP crowd loves their redemption tax. ICANN just watches from the balcony.

marcus_qc

Member

#9

Registrar redemption is where they make their margin. I've seen $80, I've seen $400. Shop around before you need it, because after expiry you're locked to whoever held it.

42U and still growing
svendeal

Member

Deal Sniper

#10

playersofia said:
ICANN just watches from the balcony
THIS. People think there's a referee. There is no referee. There is only the auction house.

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