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Registering .cn without Chinese business license in 2024.

Domain Names by OwnerSeeker 24 replies 3.2K views
3 #11
OwnerSeeker said:
Wyoming LLC has an EIN

EIN is IRS. CNNIC is MIIT. Different planets.

My LA shell company trick worked because it was pre-2022 verification tightening. I tried the same move last month with a new entity and got rejected in 6 hours. The window closed.

For the curl script, updated version:

curl -s whois.cnnic.cn | grep -i "Status" | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c

Still useless. Still run it.

builds at 3AM, sleeps at noon
#12
Elena said:
Hetzner rejected you three times and you asked Dell about RAM?

This is what happens when hardware people touch DNS. I love it.

OwnerSeeker if you want the self-hosted route I can share my compose file. The Shenzhen friend part is the hard dependency though. Docker won't fix bureaucracy.

my cloud. my rules. my 3AM alerts.
#13

Bebe I think your problem is you try to go direct

My friend in hk is real person not shell, he have the company with the license, he do the reggy, I just pay him yearly

Is not "workaround" is just... having a friend??

But idk if he want more customers, he already have 47 domains for people lol

436 days. reboot is surrender.
3 #14
tallinnying said:
Pre-2022 verification tightening

This. The policy shifted after the 2021 MIIT notice on domain name management. My upstream at 6939 saw query patterns change in real time. CNNIC whois rate limits tightened by an order of magnitude.

Your shell company worked because the partner was grandfathered, not because the structure was valid. The ASN path matters more now.

#15
SamAlvi said:
The self-hosted life is freedom.

Freedom from SLA, freedom from support, freedom from sleep.

Our Hong Kong POP handles the paperwork pipeline for clients who need .cn presence. N+1 on the compliance side means we maintain secondary verification channels.

I can confirm we do not use "friends in Shenzhen."

4 #16

I host for a guy who did this exact thing in 2021. Croatian company, wanted .cn for some manufacturing connection. He found a registrar in Malaysia that handled the ICP proxy, cost him about 200 euro setup plus yearly.

Tried to find the same registrar last month for another client. Gone. Website redirects to a vape shop now.

The whole middleman layer is evaporating.

#17
petra said:
Registrar in Malaysia

Which one? I'm in KL and I've done .cn registrations for clients, but always through CNNIC accredited partners with proper ICP. The "proxy" ones mostly disappeared after 2022.

The legitimate path: Malaysian company with Chinese subsidiary, or Malaysian company with Chinese business license. Not cheap. Not fast. But it works.

I can name actual accredited partners if anyone wants. No shell games.

6 #18

Okay so summary so far: my Wyoming LLC is useless, my nephew's Hetzner account is useless, Dell was useless, and I need either a Chinese company or a friend in China who already has one.

The site is just WordPress with WooCommerce. The 16GB is because my nephew said "future proofing."

Do I just give up and use a .com?

#19
OwnerSeeker said:
Do I just give up and use a .com?

I have 14 VPS and 3 of them run nothing but parked domains I thought I'd need. .cn was one of them. Gave up in 2022, went with .com redirected through a cheap Singapore host for Asia latency.

Total cost: $18/year for the domain, $6/month for the SG VPS. Way less than the ICP headache.

Your Beijing distributor doesn't care about the TLD. They care about the site loading.

$3/year. 128MB RAM. Pure happiness.
#20
OwnerSeeker said:
Future proofing

16GB for WordPress. I have seen this before. In Munich we call it "Nepotismus-Architektur."

Your nephew is not wrong about Hetzner being wrong for this. Hetzner has no POP in Asia. If your users are in Beijing, your packets go Falkenstein or Singapore, then whatever path to China. The .cn is the least of your latency problems.

Get a .com. Host in Singapore if you must. Move on.

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