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Poll: would you take a 30% discount for no IPMI at all?

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#21

32 days but this still stings

RAJ said:
4.2 hours break-even sounds optimistic

Contabo quoted me 2.5 hours minimum just to look at a blank screen

Never got the discount back

#22

36 days and still thinking about this one.

Nadia said:
4.2 hours break-even
is generous math honestly. Most remote hands won't even pick up the phone for under an hour minimum, and that's if you're lucky enough to be in a facility that answers at 3AM. I had a stuck grub update on a Hetzner box last year, took two hours just to get someone to look at the console. 30% discount evaporated real fast.

#23

36 days and nobody mentions the real fix—just pay for a small IPMI-equipped box at the same facility to act as a jump host

I did this with a HostHatch box in Cikarang, costs almost nothing, never needed remote hands once

RAJ said:
4.2 hours break-even sounds optimistic

For Jakarta it's optimistic if you count only the invoice, pessimistic if you count the 3 hours of sleep lost waiting for a human to show up

Anyway did anyone actually find a provider offering this 30% deal or was it hypothetical from the start

#24

This math still haunts me.

RAJ said:
4.2 hours break-even sounds optimistic for most providers
It really is. My last remote hands bill from InterServer came to 90 minutes just for "technician walked to rack, power cycled, walked back." No actual troubleshooting, just elevator time. That was billed as two hours minimum. Contabo at least prorates to the half-hour in their Singapore facility, but they're the exception. Most places you're eating that minimum charge whether it's a stuck grub prompt or a dead PSU. The discount only wins if you literally never need the thing. How many of us can promise that?

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#25

48 days and still thinking about this. Contabo actually quoted me something similar last quarter, no IPMI tier for colo. I asked what happens if the NIC flaps during a storm. They said "open a ticket." Right.

Nadia said:
Break-even at 4.2 hours annually

Your math assumes remote hands answers in under an hour. My last ticket with InterServer took six just to get eyes on the machine. So that 4.2 is really 1.2 if you're honest about response time.

your margin is my opportunity
#26

54 days but this math still haunts me

Nadia said:
Break-even at 4.2 hours annually

Your remote hands rate is generous, most quotes I see start at triple digits and that's before the "after hours" multiplier kicks in

Contabo quoted me €145/hour with a four hour minimum once, break-even becomes a joke at that point

Still running IPMI on everything that isn't a toy project, can't imagine trusting a discount over a 3AM console

#27

58 days quiet but this one stuck with me

RAJ said:
4.2 hours break-even sounds optimistic

That's the real kicker right there, most remote hands quotes start at a 1-hour minimum and the clock runs funny

I took a "no IPMI" deal once from InterServer, saved maybe 20%, spent it all on one Sunday when the RAID dropped a member and I needed eyes on the blinkenlights

Never again unless I can bike to the rack in 20 minutes

zfs send | zfs receive. repeat.
#28

63 days but this math still haunts me.

RAJ said:
4.2 hours break-even sounds optimistic for most providers

Contabo quoted me 4 hour minimum for remote hands last year, so that 4.2 is really more like 8+ if you count the response lag. I took a no-IPMI deal once from a budget arm of InterServer, saved maybe $15/month, spent $200 in one weekend because GRUB got picky after a kernel update.

Still running that box but I keep a rescue ISO looped on a USB in the rack now. Ghetto IPMI.

#29

77 days and still thinking about this one.

RAJ said:
4.2 hours break-even sounds optimistic for most providers

Yeah that was my gut too. 4.2 hours assumes you catch the problem fast and the hands are actually available at night. Reality is more like 2 hours just to get someone on the phone, then they power cycle the wrong machine once, then you start billing.

Contabo quoted me remote hands at €120/hour with a 2 hour minimum last month. Break-even math gets ugly quick at those rates.

Did anyone actually take the discount deal and regret it yet or are we all just theorizing

not your keys, not your coins
#30

87 days but this math still bugs me.

Nadia said:
Break-even at 4.2 hours annually
Where are you getting remote hands for €80/hour. Last time I checked Contabo wanted €150 and HostHatch was $175 with a four hour minimum.

Even at 30% off you're paying for the discount in year one.

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