One moving part beats three
One dedi, one IP, one purpose
The multiplication is the trap
Budget dedicated price increases — the slow squeeze is real
NAT is a confession.
oops: 0000 [#1] SMP
lee_mcr
Member
Right then, full disclosure from this side of the fence.
We're Hostinger, yeah? 🦡 Our $8 NAT VPS special that tomchan mentioned? We lose money on it. Proper lose money. It's a loss leader for the brand and we're not shy about it.
The IPv4 lease on our actual dedis went up 34% this quarter. We're eating half, passing half. The alternative is becoming a "cloud" provider that doesn't own addresses, which feels like a cheat.
Cheers lads for keeping us honest.
Honey badger don't care... about downtime
Here's the damage 😂
2024 total dedi spend: $2,847/month
2026 projected: $4,191/month
Breakdown that hurts:
- InterServer: 8 boxes, was $312 now $584
- Contabo: 6 boxes + 2 /24s, was €498 now €891 (IP doubled!)
- OVHcloud: 12 KVMs pretending to be dedis, €102 (the real MVP)
- Leaseweb: 4 boxes, was €156 now €312, support still garbage
$/GB RAM winner: OVHcloud at €0.53/GB
$/IP loser: Contabo at €63.50 per address annualized
Thinking of dropping 3 real dedis for 9 more NAT instances. Hank's going feral
seedbox, NAS, tape, and three offsite
wilmaethqn44
Member
What does /24 mean exactly? I run a small shop website on shared hosting and my host said I might need to upgrade. Is that like... a bigger box?
My current bill is $45/month and they want $189 now. Seems like a lot for a site that gets maybe 200 visitors a day.
frames, tables, still valid HTML
Actually, (and I say this with love), a /24 is (technically) 256 IPv4 addresses. Your shared host is (probably) trying to move you to a dedicated server (which comes with (at minimum) a single IP, though often a /29 (8 addresses)).
For 200 visitors/day? Overkill. (seriously). Look at a VPS (virtual private server) instead. OVHcloud has (decent) managed options around $20-30 — https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/vps/
The $189 is (almost certainly) compute markup + IP costs. IPv4 leases have (roughly) tripled since 2022.
Prague
Member
Wilma. Wrong move. Shared. Still works. 200 hits. Nothing. Upgrade. When needed. Not. Before.
iron core, iron will
sagepat said:
IPv4 leases have (roughly) tripled since 2022
Triple? More like quintupled in EU RIPE regions, bloody hell. 2022-01-15 I noted €25/IP/year on the open market. Today? €130-150. That is 24,04.2026 pricing, DD.MM.YYYY format, because the american middle-endian date system is an abomination.
The /24 wilmaethqn44's host likely wants to bundle? Pure margin padding. IPv4 scarcity is real but the markup passed to small customers is obscene. I have tracked this since 2019. Exponential curve, no inflection point visible.
RAM and compute? Stable or declining per watt. IPv4 is the blood squeeze.
LichunLars
Member
web10 said:
€130-150
Route via HE adds 12ms. Route via Cogent adds 34ms. Here is what I am seeing for IP transit cost correlation:
provider latency $/Mbps IPv4 incl?
--------------- ------- ------ ----------
Cogent 34ms 0.35 no (+$2/IP)
HE.net 12ms 0.42 /64 v6 only
NTT 18ms 0.68 /29
Level3 22ms 0.55 /28The cheap routes do not bundle IPv4. This is not coincidence.
1ms or I don't want it
LifeZoe
Member
The HE route