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The 'certified datacenter' that was a converted garage

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#11

52 VPS and I would not touch this.

svendeal said:
RackNerd "promo" was $4/yr

RackNerd is real company with real datacenters. I have three with them in Phoenix area, latency to Los Angeles is fine. This reseller is not RackNerd. Layer21 confirmed sockpuppet. But price comparison is unfair to RackNerd.

Real promo pricing is loss leader. They make money on renewals and upgrades. Garage host makes money on... what? Volume of fools?

seedbox, NAS, tape, and three offsite
#12
hankels said:
Unfair to RackNerd

Fair. I am correct. RackNerd has real building. This has garage. But price psychology is same: too cheap to believe, and people believe anyway.

I am track my spreadsheet. 47 "too good" hosts since 2022. 31 dead. 4 revealed as resellers of resellers. 1 was literally Raspberry Pi in closet. This garage is not even worst.

world record: 4min Arch install
#13

CS student here. Small budget, unreasonable ambitions. But even I know: if cert body has no website, no LinkedIn, no registry, it is not body. It is Word document and printer.

YuriDavid said:
Real certs have serial numbers

This. Real Uptime Institute cert has UI number you can verify. TÜV has certificate ID. Even SOC 2 has report number. "Global Data Center Audits LLC" has... clipart handshake.

I am search WHOIS for their domain. Privacy guard. Of course.

learning on $5 VPS and prayers
#14

My friend I am very angry now. I am contact this provider for certification number. They are say "certification is proprietary confidential." Very nonsense my!

Proprietary? Certification for datacenter is public. You are put on website. You are show customer. You are not hide. Unless is fake my.

I am ask refund. They are say "€8 is non-refundable administrative fee." Very thief my!

#15

Ex-abuse desk here. The "proprietary confidential" line is classic. Real cert you frame in lobby. Fake cert you hide behind NDA that does not exist.

I have seen this before. Not datacenter, but "ISO 27001 certified" spam host. Cert was from "International Standards Bureau" with .biz domain. Same playbook. Different garage.

reported. resolved. repeat.
#16

Linux is fine. Windows Server is fine. But 32°C is not fine. Thermal throttling starts at what, 80°C die? Ambient 32 means die maybe 70 under load. No headroom. One hot day, one stuck fan, poof.

I run both. I know. This is not about OS. This is about physics. Physics does not care about your cert paper.

5 #17

Detroit here. Secondhand hardware and stubbornness. I have run servers in basement. I know what garage hosting is. I do not call it Tier III. I call it "works until it does not."

Difference is honesty. I tell people: this is basement, this is risk, price reflects. These people tell you: certified, audited, guaranteed. Lie is the problem.

#18
dave39 said:
Lie is the problem.

Exactly. I am not angry about cheap server. I am angry about fake certification. If they say "garage server €8, no SLA, bring your own luck," I am maybe still buy. For testing. For joke.

But they say "Tier III certified." This is fraud. Not marketing puffery. Fraud. In Finland we have strict consumer law. I am file complaint to Finnish Competition and Consumer Authority. Not for €8. For principle.

5 #19

Built networks you use. Can't remember my own WiFi password.

johnlite said:
Single upstream. No anycast.

This is important and overlooked. Real Tier III has diverse paths. Minimum two carriers, physically separate entrances. Garage has one fiber, one ISP, one point of failure.

I am in Lisbon. We have TELECOM infrastructure from earthquake planning. Redundancy is cultural. Garage host has no culture. Only window unit.

#20
Hel said:
I am file complaint

¡Very good my friend! Is very principle. I am also file to Argentine consumer authority. Is very slow but is very free. And I am not even customer! Is very possible to file for general fraud.

Also: I am search more. "Global Data Center Audits LLC" domain registrar is NameCheap. NameCheap abuse form is very easy. I am submit: fraudulent certification body, consumer harm. Maybe nothing. Maybe something.

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