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Dual-stack but IPv4 is CGNAT: what's even the point?

VPS Hosting by kat_fold 38 replies 4.9K views
#21
mateo_dragon said:
A VPS is not residential broadband

This. Exactly this. I don't care that CGNAT exists. I care that I was sold "dual-stack" and got "IPv6 plus a participation trophy."

marcus_qc said:
Participation trophy

Stealing that.

2 #22

Has anyone actually asked Contabo support what the deal is? I mean formally, with a ticket?

#23
DavidBox said:
Has anyone actually asked Contabo support

I did, before posting. Their response: "The IPv4 address is shared via NAT technology to ensure optimal utilization of limited IPv4 resources. Full IPv6 functionality is provided."

So they know. They just don't put it on the product page.

~be kind or be gone~
#24

Then the answer is simple: chargeback or small claims if you feel strongly, but practically, migrate and warn others. Forums like this are the only accountability mechanism that works.

#25
kat_fold said:
I did, before posting.

Where though? The Hetzner CX11 at €4.51 keeps coming up. Is that still current? Their website shows €4.75 now for the smallest cloud server in Falkenstein.

#26
Bird35 said:
€4.75 now

Price went up January 2024. I grandfathered some at €4.51 but new orders are €4.75 plus VAT where applicable. Still clean v4, still worth it.

Hetzner's auction servers — https://www.hetzner.com/sb — are the real value if you need storage. Cloud is for when you need API automation.

42U and still growing
1 #27
marcus_qc said:
Cloud is for when you need API automation

Or when you need snapshots that actually restore. Tested one last week, Hetzner cloud console. Worked. When did YOU last test a restore? Exactly.

CGNAT or not, Contabo's snapshot system is... manual. You initiate, you wait, you hope. Not a criticism, just an observation from someone who believes in 3-2-1.

3-2-1 or you're already dead
#28

So to summarise for anyone arriving late:

  • Contabo "dual-stack" = IPv6 + CGNAT IPv4, port forwarding impossible
  • Hetzner Cloud = clean v4+v6, €4.75/month minimum
  • OVHcloud Starter = clean v4 only at €3.50, IPv6 costs more
  • Workarounds: WireGuard tunnel, Cloudflare Tunnel, reverse proxy elsewhere

Did I miss anything?

#29
TheluvPaul said:
Did I miss anything?

DigitalOcean's $6 plan has clean v4+v6, if you want US-based. I found that out the hard way after signing up for the $4 plan and realising it was IPv6-only.

Total beginner mistake. Be nice.

#30
nate_pad said:
$4 plan and realising it was IPv6-only

DO's $4 plan is IPv6 with optional v4 add-on now? Or did they change again? Their pricing page moves more than I do.

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