pieter_rtm
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Evolution skin adds maybe 80MB?
Doubtful. Evolution is just CSS and JS served by the same OpenLiteSpeed or Apache process. Skin does not change the daemon footprint. Your 220MB delta is CSF+LFD plus maybe CustomBuild options I stripped out.
I run minimal: no ClamAV, no SpamAssassin (Rspamd instead), no webmail roundcube. Just pure mail + web + dns. That is how I hit 1.08GB.
@SamAlvi Contabo Singapore to Jakarta is decent latency? I would worry about the subsea routing for Indonesian end users. Hostinger has a Jakarta DC now, probably better for JokoNord's clients.
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JokoNord
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Thank you @SamAlvi and @pieter_rtm for explain. I check Hostinger, my VPS is already in Jakarta DC, ping to my friends house 12ms very good.
I find DirectAdmin personal license page. $2/month but need credit card, I only have local bank transfer. Maybe I ask my uncle in Malaysia to help.
@RAJ sir, your lawyer client story give me hope. I worry my clients run away if panel change. But if old man can learn maybe my clients too.
Still scared of migration. My HestiaCP has 14 accounts. If I move to DA, can I do one by one? Or must all at once?
traffic worse than my packet loss
wendy
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Plesk's bundled mail stack on Windows is still SmarterMail
SmarterMail for new installs, yes, but grandfathered MailEnable licenses still work if you had them before 2024. I am on Obsidian 18.0.57 with MailEnable 10.23, no issues. The licensing "weirdness" was Plesk trying to force SmarterMail upgrades for antivirus features, but I just use ESET Mail Security separately.
@FlowSana you are right about Docker time cost. I tried Portainer for three months, spent more time in compose files than with clients. Plesk is expensive but it is a time purchase, not a software purchase. At my hourly rate the break-even is surprisingly fast.
Also for the ASP.NET Core crowd: Plesk's Git deployment to IIS with web.config transform is still unmatched. Enhance has nothing comparable, DA has nothing comparable.
Have you tried restarting it?
SamAlvi
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Your $0.09/GB becomes $0.14 if I add my hourly
Only if you bill yourself hourly, which is an accounting fiction. My Docker nodes run unattended for months. The time cost is front-loaded, not ongoing.
@Digital17 two-tier hosting is honest hosting. Better than overselling cPanel dreams on HestiaCP nightmares.
@lol32 that 2FA bug is nasty. I reported similar on Keycloak once, they fixed it in a week. Open source velocity versus commercial velocity is not always what people assume.
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RAJ
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"Login as User" feature is broken in Evolution if you use 2FA
Confirmed, just tested on my staging box. Infinite redirect exactly as described. This is the kind of real-world detail you never find in docs.
@FlowSana six weeks for 14 VMs is patient. I have 8 VMs and impatient clients. Did you run parallel DA installs or sequential? And did you use the transfer tool or manual rsync?
@Digital17 respect for the honesty. I have one client who pays in INR, one in USD, I feel the friction. The USD client gets cPanel for now, INR client gets DA. Same server quality, different panel, different price. Market segmentation is not a crime.
your margin is my opportunity