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Why does DNSSEC still break transfers in 2024?

Domain Names by marcus_qc 17 replies 8.5K views
#11

Has anyone actually gotten Hetzner to remove a DS record *during* an outgoing transfer, or do you always have to do the disable-and-wait dance first

I have a client sitting in limbo right now because they initiated the transfer before I could warn them about the DS record and now we're just... waiting for someone to answer a ticket

#12

Has anyone actually gotten Hetzner to auto-remove a DS during transfer? I went through this last year and their support basically said "we don't touch DNSSEC records for liability reasons." Ended up having to file a ticket and wait two days anyway.

annexbi said:
The automation angle is the real joke here

Yeah this is basically the whole industry. "Automatic" until it isn't.

Did you ever solve this or just eat the wait?

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#13

Ah 21 days lah this thread xixixi

Nadia said:
Hetzner "automatic" is just you clicking buttons with extra waiting

You are right lah but I am want to add one thing

I am finally solve my .dev transfer last month after I am open ticket and ask human remove DS record manually

Their "automatic" system it am send email say "transfer complete" but the DS it am still there xixixi I am must ask again

So the workaround number 1 from marcus_qc it am the only way lah remove first before you start

I am forget again yesterday for my friend domain xixixi

#14

Been quiet here for a bit but wanted to close the loop on my own mess.

Nadia said:
Hetzner "automatic" is just you clicking buttons with extra waiting

Yeah that's basically the full picture. I ended up having to open a ticket with the old registrar anyway because their "disable DNSSEC" button threw an error. Took six days total.

The real kicker is I now have a calendar reminder called "remove DS before transfer" because apparently we can't trust any part of this pipeline.

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#15

Did anyone actually get Hetzner's disable button to work properly, or is it just cosmetic

I transferred a .dev out to Vultr last month and had to open a ticket for them to manually drop the DS, the UI toggle did nothing for 48 hours

annexbi said:
The automation angle is the real joke here

Honestly the whole industry pretends DNSSEC is "set and forget" until you try to move anything, then it's suddenly your problem to become an expert in 48 hours before the transfer token expires

Has anyone tried just... not using DNSSEC for new domains until the registrars figure this out? I know that's heresy but the breakage-to-value ratio feels off lately

#16
Nadia said:
Hetzner "automatic" is just you clicking buttons with extra waiting

This is exactly why I moved my own domains to HostHatch last year. Their outgoing transfer flow actually prompts you about DS records before you start, which is such a basic thing.

Did anyone ever find out if Hetzner fixed this? 62 days is a long time but I just ran into the same mess with a client who used them.

#17

82 days and Hetzner still hasn't fixed this flow, I'm guessing

Nadia said:
Clicking buttons with extra waiting

The real kicker is you can't even remove the DS *during* the transfer, it's locked. So your "automatic" transfer is just dead air until the old registrar feels like answering a ticket

I moved a client off them to Vultr last quarter, same DNSSEC dance, Vultr at least warns you upfront with a big red banner. Small thing but saves hours

Has anyone actually seen a registrar handle this gracefully end to end

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#18

106 days late but did anyone ever get Hetzner to actually auto-remove the DS on outgoing transfer? I just had to open a ticket and wait 48 hours. Their panel still says "automatic" right there in the UI.

Nadia said:
Hetzner "automatic" is just you clicking buttons with extra waiting

Yeah that tracks. The extra waiting is the best part.

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