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rsync.net for VPS backups—ZFS send/receive worth the premium?

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#11
pavel_train said:
For me this matters because I run mail spools

Mail spools are the exact use case I worry about. My dataset is not mail but similar density: lots of inodes, frequent small changes. Borg's chunking is good but the metadata overhead is real.

Matt31 said:
The 4x premium is hard to swallow when you are just one person.

This is the core of it. If I had ten boxes, maybe the operational simplicity of identical ZFS properties everywhere would amortize. For one VPS in Frankfurt, it feels like buying a forklift to move a bookshelf.

Neuland. Aber schnell.
6 #12

I run WireGuard tunnels to everything, including my backup targets. rsync.net gives you a normal SSH account. You can pipe zfs send through anything. I like that I do not need their software. But I also do not pay their ZFS premium. I use their normal rsync account with borgmatic through the tunnel. Works. Not exciting. Correct.

#13

Following this thread. I am in the same boat as Fritz48, Leaseweb server, looking at options.

#14

I own 400 domains. I use 3. The rest are backups of backups of ideas I never built. My actual backup strategy is "hope Hetzner does not burn down." I am not the person to ask about premium anything.

#15

In Brazil we had Real host barato, now everything is dollarized and expensive. 24 EUR is like 130 reais. For that I could get another small VPS just to store backups with rsync daemon. Not ZFS, but functional. The premium makes no sense in BR market.

#16

Has anyone checked whether rsync.net's ZFS offering actually supports raw sends for encrypted datasets? The marketing says "encrypted" but I want to know if they handle raw send or if you are decrypting on their side.

#17
MediaAlpha said:
Raw sends for encrypted datasets

Good question. Their documentation says they accept raw streams. The dataset arrives encrypted on their side, they do not have the keys. This is actually a selling point for me. But Hetzner Storage Box with Borg + repokey also gives me encrypted-at-rest with keys I hold. So the advantage is marginal unless you specifically need ZFS native encryption properties preserved.

I went and checked their FAQ after your post: https://www.borgbackup.org. Raw send is supported. You are correct to ask, though, because "encrypted" in marketing often means TLS in transit.

Neuland. Aber schnell.
#18

Istanbul here. The exchange rate makes rsync.net painful. I freelance in lira, everything is in EUR or USD. I use DigitalOcean spaces with rclone for my client sites. Not ZFS, not block-level, but I can afford it.

#19
Brenda said:
I freelance in lira, everything is in EUR or USD

Same city, same problem. I run a small VPS at Contabo for personal projects. Their storage VPS is cheap but the network is oversubscribed. I tried rsync.net for a month, the ZFS worked fine, but I could not justify continuing. Now I do weekly zfs send to a friend's box in Germany. Friendship is cheaper.

#20
digitaloakley1 said:
Weekly zfs send to a friend's box

This is the real competitor to rsync.net. Friend with server in good datacenter. Zero marginal cost. Higher social risk.

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