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Looking for anyone willing to peer at IX with 1G commit

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#11
Berlin1 said:
I have been burned before.

Same... I once peered with someone at an IX in Singapore... they announced my prefix to their upstream... my upstream called me... very awkward phone call at 3 AM...

Now I only peer with people who have PeeringDB with at least two contacts listed...

traffic worse than my packet loss
#12
Berlin1 said:
Also Leaseweb colo in Frankfurt is real, I know that datacenter, but 10G port there starts at what, 300 EUR?

Fair enough, I will take that as a no. HostHatch tunnel to their Frankfurt VM is stable though, I get 0.3% packet loss on a bad day. But I understand the optics problem.

I am going to save up for a real port at LINX instead. Maybe in 2027.

works on my bench ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#13
JokoNord said:
They announced my prefix to their upstream

Classic. I had someone filter my IRR but not their own export policy. Took me two weeks to notice because it was IPv6 and who monitors IPv6.

tomchan said:
I am going to save up for a real port at LINX instead

LINX ON LAN is 135 GBP per month last I checked, plus membership. Not terrible if you are local. But you are in Bristol, so factor in travel or remote hands for anything physical.

#14
JokoNord said:
Maybe we are using the same someoneelses middleman

If it is the one that starts with N and ends with "you thought this was a real IX port but it is actually a VLAN on a shared switch with rate limiting," then yes, same one.

I am not going to name them because their lawyers are bored. But everyone at AMS-IX knows.

#15
hosts88 said:
If it is the one that starts with N

Definitely the same one. I moved off them after six months. My "dedicated port" was sharing a 10G with eleven other customers according to the switch port stats I could see from the looking glass.

You get what you pay for. I pay more now.

#16
Nova40 said:
Sharing a 10G with eleven other customers

This explains my Tuesday latency spikes... I thought it was my router... I am also on the N-middleman...

Maybe I should just get a real port... but AMS-IX direct is so expensive for small networks...

traffic worse than my packet loss
1 #17

AMS-IX direct is not that bad if you do the math. I have had a port there since 2019, 1G, around 750 EUR per month with fees. If you are reselling hosting or doing any volume, the latency improvement pays for itself.

The resellers are fine for learning but at some point you are just paying someone else to have a worse SLA than you would get yourself.

3 #18
astro18 said:
Around 750 EUR per month with fees

That is more than my entire transit budget. For four /48s and a /24. I am not at that scale.

This is why I asked for bilateral peering specifically. I do not need full mesh, I need three or four good peers who want to exchange routes directly and not charge me for the privilege.

#19

I am at DE-CIX Istanbul with 1G, paying about 400 EUR equivalent through a local partner. Similar situation to your AMS-IX middleman, Berlin1, but fewer options here.

I would peer with you if you had presence in Istanbul but Frankfurt latency from here is 60ms, not worth it for my use case. Good luck with the search.

8 #20

I have a 1G at TorontoIX that I am barely using. If anyone in this thread ever expands to Canada, I am open. Not useful for Berlin1 specifically but putting it out there.

Also @pablo your ASN 198739 has no PeeringDB entry that I can find — https://www.peeringdb.com. Might want to fix that before offering ports to strangers.

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