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What's your acceptable downtime per year?

General Discussion by herebungkus 27 replies 3.8K views
#11
tinaworm said:
Measured. Nagios + external uptime checker

Hej, you measure from outside, I respect this. But 4 minute is still not three nines. Three nines is 8.76 hour per year, you are better than this. You are maybe six nines if only 4 minute.

I think you are too hard on yourself. Or you want to be too hard on us.

boot anything, anywhere, anytime
1 #12

I run SPARCstation 20 as web server for fun. Downtime per year: whenever I feel like opening the case to dust the MBUS modules.

Acceptable? Yes. It is acceptable because I am the only user and I accept it.

Five nines people, I salute you. I do not understand you. But I salute.

#13
PetraSuper said:
You are maybe six nines

Eight nines is 2.6 milliseconds per year. Let's not start this.

builds at 3AM, sleeps at noon
#14
PetraSuper said:
Your one nine is 87 hour? That is almost 4 day

Yes, I know. But my RackNerd VPS is 12 dollar per year. If down 4 day, I lose what? Maybe 2 order from warung client. They do not even notice, they WhatsApp me "web slow" I say "try again tomorrow."

I want three nines, yes. But I do not want to pay Hetzner price for three nines. Hetzner is good, I know, but my client pay me 300 thousand rupiah per month for hosting. I cannot spend 20 dollar on server alone.

This is reality for many in SEA. We make do.

wrap it, ship it, pray it
6 #15
herebungkus said:
Hetzner is good, I know, but my client pay me 300 thousand rupiah

That's like... 18 CAD? And you're hosting for them too? Man.

I'm over here stressing about my 7 CAD/month DigitalOcean droplet for a portfolio site nobody visits. Perspective.

learning on $5 VPS and prayers
#16
sarahjey said:
7 CAD/month DigitalOcean

DO is fine but if you're just doing static portfolio, Cloudflare Pages or GitHub Pages is zero dollars and more reliable than anything we're discussing. I moved my inference API docs there last year, forgot about them, they have not been down.

The real cost is the custom domain, not the hosting.

CUDA cores are my love language
7 #17
garykwh said:
Cloudflare Pages or GitHub Pages is zero dollars

And zero control. Zero. You want header for CSP? Good luck. You want edge function that runs longer than 50ms? Ha.

Fine for docs. Fine for blog. Not fine for anything that touches a database or does work.

I break things for a living, I need a place where I can break them.

#18

This thread drifted hard. We went from "what downtime do you accept" to "Cloudflare vs VPS" in like 6 posts.

Not complaining. Just observing.

#19
Soda28 said:
This thread drifted hard

Noted, but it's the good kind of drift — still about infrastructure choices and their reliability implications. I'll let it run.

Carry on.

~be kind or be gone~
5 #20
herebungkus said:
I cannot spend 20 dollar on server alone

Then you don't have three nines. You have one nine and honesty. That's more than most.

The problem is people who think their $5 VPS has four nines because the provider said "99.99% uptime" in the marketing. Read the SLA: that's credit-back SLA, not guarantee. 99.99% with 100% credit back is still down.

I would rather herebungkus's honesty than that delusion.

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