Skip to content

What do you use for SSL that isn't Let's Encrypt?

General Discussion Locked by svendeal 14 replies 1K views
This thread is locked — new replies are not accepted. (Closed at the OP's request)
#11
nailfrank said:
My sleep schedule has dignity.

Respect. But Sven's doing 50 sites, not 3. At 15 min per that's 12.5 hours of clicking. My 3am Docker trauma scales better than that.

Also Sectigo resellers vary wildly. Some send you a zip file and make you concatenate chains manually like it's 2011.

builds at 3AM, sleeps at noon
#12

For local clients in VN I use BuyPass too. One problem: their ACME server from Southeast Asia is slow. Not failed, just slow. 30-45 seconds for finalization sometimes. Cert-manager retries but it adds jitter to my logs.

I asked their support, they said "no datacenter in region." So if your clients measure latency obsessively, note this.

phở at 3AM, deploy at 4
#13
minh1987 said:
30-45 seconds for finalization

This is what I mean about trust anchors. You are depending on BuyPass infrastructure, their BGP, their DDoS mitigation. At least with step-ca the latency is YOUR problem, not some support ticket.

But I still say don't run your own CA for external clients. The risk calculus is wrong.

airgapped, encrypted, faraday'd, still worried
#14

Has anyone tried Google Trust Services? Free through their public CA program, 90 day certs, ACME endpoint. I used it for a personal project last year but didn't stress test the limits. I checked it against https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ at the time and it looked fine.

Downside: you need a Google Cloud account even for the free tier. Another vendor to bill.

8 #15
Hosts28 said:
Google Trust Services

Looked at this. The free tier requires registering in Google Cloud Certificate Manager, and there's a quota of 100 certificates per project per lifetime for the free issuance. Not weekly — lifetime. Blow through that on one migration and you're paying Google rates.

So that's out for bulk.

Current leaderboard for my specific hell:

  • 1. Vultr bundled CA — $36/yr, wildcards(?), need to verify
  • 2. BuyPass — free, no wildcards, 2x cert count
  • 3. ZeroSSL paid — $50/yr for 3 tiers, ACME still flaky per my own logs

Someone tell me Vultr supports wildcards before I give them money.

world record: 4min Arch install

Thread closed

Replies are closed on this thread. Closed at the OP's request.