GeorgeNmp
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That's a fair geographic correction. I should have qualified: in RIR regions with mature v6 deployment (RIPE, ARIN), tunnel brokers as default advice for new users on cheap VPS are doing more harm than good. In APNIC and parts of LACNIC, they're still necessary.
But even then: a WireGuard tunnel to a VM with native v6 is architecturally cleaner than 6in4 through a third-party broker. The "use HE" answer is lazy. "Rent a 3 EUR VM in Singapore and tunnel yourself" is better advice for Jakarta.
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danfra
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Vultr's DDoS mitigation actually sees the inner packet because I terminate and re-encapsulate on my side.
This is the key insight. Broker tunnels hide the inner flow from your provider's edge. Self-terminating on a VM you control lets you apply your own filtering before re-encapsulation or native handoff.
For production: own your tunnel endpoints. For home lab: whatever, use HE. The problem is people treating the home lab solution as production architecture.
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rustyrack_grag
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Also in Tallinn, also on Telia DS-Lite. I tried the HE tunnel but their closest PoP is Frankfurt and I was seeing 40-50ms added to every v6 flow. For SSH it's fine. For game streaming to my living room TV it was unusable.
Switched to a local VPS provider (Veebimajutus.ee) that has native v6 and runs a WireGuard bounce. 15ms total. The "free" tunnel wasn't actually free once I accounted for latency cost.
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GeorgeNmp
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Is there a Singapore-based alternative with native v6 in the same price range?
Hetzner Singapore starts at 4.51 EUR for CX11, which is roughly 2x your Contabo price but gives you a /64 native. No tunnel needed.
If you're locked into Contabo: they have a Singapore datacenter but I don't know if their NAT instances there get v6. Their routing is... variable. You might ask in the Contabo-specific thread first.
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