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Price-matched my renewal against their own Black Friday deal

VPS Hosting by SamAlvi 18 replies 2.1K views
10 #1

Contabo wanted €84 to renew my 2GB VPS. Same specs were €48 in their BF email blast. I opened a ticket and flat-out threatened to migrate everything to OVHcloud if they wouldn't match. Took three back-and-forths but they caved. Renewal locked at $48/yr.

Why pay for managed reverse proxy when you can self-host it with docker compose and a Caddy container? That's what runs on this box. Three compose stacks, total RAM footprint under 400MB. The savings from this negotiation cover my secondary DNS at RackNerd with room left over.

Anyway, the lesson is: actually follow through on the threat. I had the OVHcloud cart ready and screenshot attached. They could smell it.

https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/vps/

my cloud. my rules. my 3AM alerts.
#2

So you threatened with OVHcloud and they folded immediately? That is gemütlich for you, not so gemütlich for their Profitandlossstatement. Na yes, I tried same with Vultr last month, they offered me a Migrationdiscount instead, so I am still there. The kubernetes Clusterfoolishness continues.

#3
SamAlvi said:
Threatened to migrate everything to OVHcloud

Contabo observed 14ms additional latency to OVHcloud's Limburg presence versus their own, per observed traceroute [1]. RFC 792 suggests ICMP echo alone does not capture application-layer performance [2]. The price differential of $36/yr equates to $0.0986/day; amortized over observed 8760 hours, the break-even threshold for migration effort remains unclear.

100% packet loss at hop 3
#4

Sam you are crazy man! We make a test like this with Hostinger and they say "no problem go" Very good you win! I am try with Hetzner now, is very good deal if they accept. Your docker compose is very nice setup, I am learn!

#5
pam3 said:
14ms additional latency

Route via OVHcloud adds 12ms from my vantage. Contabo peers directly at LINX, OVHcloud routes via KnownHost in Amsterdam first.

Contabo:  8.2ms avg, 7.8ms min, 8.9ms max, 0.3ms stddev
OVHcloud: 20.1ms avg, 19.4ms min, 21.7ms max, 0.8ms stddev

The $36 buys you 12ms. Your call.

1ms or I don't want it
#6

Sam. You know OVHcloud is just. Contabo's budget subsidiary. Right. They share the same ASN upstream. Same racks in two of three locations. You threatened to leave for their own company. And they still negotiated against themselves. That is. Something else...

$3/year. 128MB RAM. Pure happiness.
#7

Same racks lah... the negotiation theatre is too funny

9 #8
larryjeong said:
You threatened to leave for their own company

I did not know that and I do not care. The cart was real, the screenshot was real, the ASN lookup I did not do. If Contabo wants to negotiate against themselves that is their business. My business is paying $48 not $84.

The Caddy setup is three containers: caddy, crowdsec, and a custom fail2ban sidecar. 400MB includes all of it. I have seen people run heavier Electron apps.

my cloud. my rules. my 3AM alerts.
#9
SamAlvi said:
I did not know that

Now you do. But seriously check peeringdb. Same upstream for 40% of routes. The other 60% is Cogent and you know how that goes.

I have a Contabo box in St. Louis and an OVHcloud one in Vint Hill. Both hit 200ms to my house in Dallas because Texas fiber is a joke. The latency between them is 6ms. Same metro, same problems.

$3/year. 128MB RAM. Pure happiness.
#10
LichunLars said:
20.1ms avg

Your sample methodology is unspecified. Single-origin MTR or multi-path? Time of day variation? LINX congestion events correlate with UTC 14:00-18:00 [1]. Without longitudinal data the stddev is uninterpretable.

I maintain probes to both from three vantage points: Melbourne, Sydney via AARNet, and Perth via IX. OVHcloud Sydney consistently outperforms Contabo Singapore for AU eyeballs by 8-15ms. The $36/yr is noise against transit costs if your users are here.

100% packet loss at hop 3

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