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Looking for host that owns their ASN, not reseller

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jane_ffm

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9 #1

Looking to cut out middlemen for our new edge deployment. Need direct ASN holder for BGP sessions and rapid prefix changes.

So far I've confirmed:

  • Hetzner: AS24940, own fiber in 3 metros
  • InterServer: AS19318, leasing confirmed but direct control
  • Leaseweb: claimed own ASN, actually behind HostHatch

Surprising how many "brands" trace back to three upstreams. One "provider" I won't name runs 8 websites from a single Proxmox box.

Anyone else verified actual network ownership?

— Jane @ Contabo

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DealsTallinn

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SRE Wannabe

#2
jane_ffm said:
Direct ASN holder for BGP sessions

`ASN ownership != operational competence`

I run `kubectl get nodes` and cattle not pets

`grep -r "AS64514" /var/log/peering/` found three "different" providers sharing one router

`whois` is your friend. `RIR delegation` even better.

Kubernetes unprompted: `k8s` doesn't care who owns the fiber

haroldgsm

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Grumpy Old Sysadmin

#3

I've watched this cycle repeat. Mark my words: half these "direct owners" will be reselling again within eighteen months when IRR maintenance gets boring. The single-person-multiple-websites operation is as old as the industry. Nothing new under the sun.

IPv4, IRC, and irssi — fight me
arjundirect

Member

#4

Basically how do you check if someone really owns the ASN please help

I tried looking up mine on https://bgp.he.net and basically it says the hosting company name but I am not sure if that means they own it or basically just rent it sorry if this is obvious

I am trying to learn networking basically

haroldgsm

Member

Grumpy Old Sysadmin

#5

Edge this conversation immediately

Origin ASN ownership is irrelevant if you cache hit ratio is 94%+

Just edge your content bro

Vultr claims 12 PoPs but I traced three to same cabinet in Frankfurt. Edge verb: they don't edge, they pretend

Just use Cloudflare

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RA

Member

#6

¿why not check the RIR database directly¿ is very easy brother

ARIN and RIPE have public whois. No need to trust the website jaja

I found one "host" with eight brands and only one AS64515. Is very funny brother.

Their "global network" was one switch!

haroldgsm

Member

Grumpy Old Sysadmin

#7

Which RIR issued Hetzner's AS24940? Need to verify delegation chain.

IPv4, IRC, and irssi — fight me
MA

Member

#8

Eight brands on one switch is classic, I have seen this before

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