This. I moved 14 boxes to Hetzner after my fourth burn. Nuremberg and Helsinki. Price is middle, uptime is middle, support is "go read the manual" but they have been around since 1997 and they are not reincarnating.
Still keep 3 at BuyVM for the DDoS protection. Different risk profile.
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I pay more for my VPS than my coffee now, this is sad day. But I understand. My last "deal" was $3/month, lasted 3 months, data gone. Now I use HostHatch storage VPS for backups, $3/month, boring, works.
No. Boring is a control panel. Boring is someone else patching your kernel. I rent bare metal from Hetzner, I install what I want, I wait 40 minutes for hardware swap if drive dies. That is not boring, that is ownership.
VPS "founding customer" is gambling with someone else's hardware lottery. Of course you lose.
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Hetzner does not have a datacenter in Bristol. My shed does. Latency to London is 4ms, to Frankfurt 12ms. For my use case the VPS burns were acceptable risk until they were not.
I now self-host on a fibre line with dynamic DNS. Not for everyone. But I control the kernel.
In France fiber is symmetric but dynamic IP is a pain for SMTP. Orange, Free, SFR all the same problem. I stay with OVHcloud for mail, real OVHcloud not the scam, and Hetzner for the rest.
The scam "Vultr" had a panel that looked like real Vultr but the logo was off-center, I noticed after. Details.
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This is the level of detail I need. I compared latency only. Next time I check logo kerning.
Seriously though: the real Vultr has Stockholm. The scam "Vultr" routed Stockholm "plans" via London every time. Geographic impossibility if they were real.
I run mtr from Prague to both. Real Vultr FRA: 8 hops. Scam "Vultr" FRA: 11 hops, same 3 extra hops as the "OVHcloud" scam had. Same network, same scammer, different landing page.
I have the mtr logs if anyone wants.
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This is the Unix philosophy applied to fraud: do one thing well, then pipe it through sed to change the name.
I want to know if the payment processor was the same. Not the crypto option, the card option. Same Stripe account? Same shell company in Cyprus?
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Different. "OVHcloud" used some Lithuanian payment aggregator I did not recognize. "Vultr" used Stripe but the descriptor was different from "Vultr Holdings Corporation." I have the statements. Should have checked then.
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VULT TECHNOLOGIES LTD lol
I got burned by "Digital Ocean" with the space missing once. Descriptor was "DIGOCEAN BILLING." $2.50 for 2GB. Lasted 5 months. I am not smart man but I am persistent in my mistakes.
