wilmaethqn44
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Does managed mean they fix it if I break the plugin updates? 😬
I run a small pottery shop site and last month I updated woocommerce and white-screened everything for like 6 hours. Had to pay a freelancer $120 to unfudge it. So if managed hosting prevents THAT I can kinda see the math working?
frames, tables, still valid HTML
Doug
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"billable rate" lol my brother in christ we're all sitting here on $4 vpses arguing about whether $35 is "insurance"
grabs popcorn, checks /r/drama
Richard7
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Pentium III Enjoyer
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Back in 2009 I was running WordPress on a Pentium 4 dedicated with 512MB RAM and a 10k RPM SCSI drive, paid $89/mo for the privilege at a place long since dead. They don't make them like that anymore and thank god for it
The thing is, that box was "managed" too, which back then meant they'd reboot it when you emailed them and maybe install cPanel if you asked nice. Took 4 hours to compile PHP from source. Now you get containerized staging and Redis caching for the same inflation-adjusted price
My honest take: the $35 managed plans today are absurdly more capable than what we had, but the $4 VPS is also absurdly more capable. The gap between "works" and "works well" narrowed, but the gap between "works well" and "someone else fixes it at 2am" is still worth paying for if you sleep
SPARCstation 20, still serving HTTP
sarahjey
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Does anyone have a migration horror story from managed back to self-hosted?
Im on a free student plan at Vultr right now but it expires in december and im trying to budget for next year. My site is just a portfolio with like 200 hits a month so im thinking even a cheap NAT box would be overkill but the managed migration tools sound nice
Also thanks everyone this thread is super helpful!
learning on $5 VPS and prayers
haroldgsm
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20 years in this business and I've watched this cycle repeat four times now. Back when we ran our own LAMP stacks on dedicated boxes, the "managed" premium was 2x and people paid it gladly because compiling mod_php was actual work. Kids these days have Docker one-liners and think they're sysadmins.
The honest truth: managed WordPress is worth it precisely because most of you are not as good as you think you are. I've cleaned up more "optimized" nginx configs than I can count, all copy-pasted from some blog post in 2019 with security headers that break the block editor. Mark my words, the $35 plan looks expensive until you're grepping error logs at 3am because your client's Black Friday sale starts in 5 hours.
The pessimistic prediction: within 18 months, half the "self-managed" crowd in this thread will be back on managed plans after a security incident they didn't catch. Back when I s
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lee_mcr
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Right then, proper honest take from someone who sells the cheap stuff
We've got lads paying us £2.50 for a NAT VPS and running WordPress on it, bless em, works fine until it doesn't. Had one customer last week who'd never updated core in 4 years, site got turned into a pharmaceutical redirect. We don't touch it, it's unmanaged, not our problem, but you feel a bit bad
The managed premium is basically paying someone else to have that feeling for you. We're not in that game at Hostinger, too much faff, but I get why Contabo and the like charge for it. Proper sleep is worth money
Cheers lads 🦡
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