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EU datacenter efficiency rules pass, what's your plan?

Datacenter Talk by pablo 24 replies 1.5K views
rudi3

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#21
reykjavik_doc said:
Falkenstein is 1.18, Helsinki is 1.15

Where do you get these numbers? Hetzner does not publish PUE by location. If you have a source I want to see it. I am in their Falkenstein colo and the only number I have ever seen is the one in the general sustainability PDF that says "average across all locations."

Berlin1 is right about the heat reuse fiction. My contract mentions nothing about it. The EU wants contractual agreements with off-takers but my landlord cannot even get a contract with a reliable plumber.

rustyrack_grag

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#22
rudi3 said:
Where do you get these numbers?

I do not have them. I estimated from the cooling design. Falkenstein uses chillers in summer, Helsinki uses lake water cooling. The lake water is more efficient. This is not Hetzner data, this is engineering inference.

What Hetzner actually publishes is a single "below 1.2" claim with no location breakdown. The annual report will force them to disclose more. That is probably why they are fighting the reporting requirements in court. RR

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mediaaustin

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#23
rustyrack_grag said:
That is probably why they are fighting the reporting requirements in court.

Do you have a source for this court case? I cannot find it and I track hosting industry litigation for work. Not doubting you, just want to read the filing.

If true, that would explain why their compliance emails have been so vague. "We are evaluating our obligations" is not a legal strategy, it is stalling.

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rustyrack_grag

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7 #24
mediaaustin said:
Do you have a source for this court case?

I do not. I inferred it from the vagueness, which was sloppy of me. They may simply be slow. Correcting my own statement: Hetzner has not publicly announced litigation against the EU efficiency rules as of my knowledge.

What they have done is join a trade association brief arguing for looser heat-reuse definitions. This is documented on the German data center association website. Not the same as a court case. RR

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debDebi

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#25

So To Summarize For The People Who Arrived Late:
- Small Servers Are Safe For Now
- Big Dcs Need Pue 1.2 By 2028
- Heat Reuse Is Mostly Fiction
- Your Email Will Get Worse
- Contabo Is Still In Nuremberg
- Iceland Has Windows

I Am Administrating The Linux From 2012 Year And I Have Seen Worse Rules. We Will Survive.

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