mediaaustin
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Deliverability Nerd
- Joined:
- Jul 2024
- Posts:
- 276
- From:
- Austin, US
If you're still running mail off the same box as your web server in 2026, you're asking for deliverability pain.
For what it's worth, I split mine out three years ago and my spam folder placement dropped from ~18% to under 2%. The reason is simple: web hosts get noisy neighbors, compromised wordpress installs, and IP reputation bleed. Mail providers see that ASN and throttle first, ask questions later.
SPF is easy, DKIM is easy, DMARC is where people mess up. p=reject on a shared web host is suicide if you haven't audited every single form, newsletter, cron job, and contact plugin. I've seen people lock themselves out of their own password resets because they flipped DMARC to strict before checking their transactional path.
My current setup:
- Web: Contabo KVM, 2GB, €3.50/month, runs nginx + php-fpm
- Mail: Vultr mail relay on their deliverability tier, separate dedicated IP — https://www.vultr.com/pricing/
- DNS: Cloudflare, proxied web only, mail bypass
- Monitoring: GSuite postmaster tools + Vultr dashboard weekly
SPF, DKIM, DMARC — holy trinity ✉️
wilmaethqn44
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- Joined:
- Jun 2024
- Posts:
- 135
- From:
- Cardiff, UK
If I split them do I need two servers? 😬
I have one little Hostinger shared plan, $8/year, runs my shop and the mail. Scared to touch DNS because last time I broke my site for 2 days. My brother set it up and he's not around anymore.
Is there like... a mail-only service I can point MX to without moving the website? I don't need anything fancy, just want my order confirmations to actually reach customers. Right now some go to spam and I lose sales.
Also what is DPA, is that something I need to worry about? I'm in the UK.
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lucgone
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Le Baguette
- Joined:
- Jul 2024
- Posts:
- 296
- From:
- Lyon, FR
I have make this split since 2 years lol, it is possible to do that with cheap way 😅
Before I have try self-hosted mail on my OVHcloud VPS but my IP was already dirty when I get it. Since 2 days of fight with Spamhaus I give up and go to Vultr free tier. Mdr the free tier is enough for my 3 domains and 200 mails per month.
The DNS propagation was horrible for me, I wait 48 hours and still some DNS check show old MX. Now I use TTL 600 always when I change something. Learned the hard way.
My web is on Contabo since 1 year, no problem. Mail on Vultr free. I have make a script to check if my web IP is on blocklist, if yes it send alert to Discord. Very useful lol.
You think it is possible to self-host mail with clean IP on budget VPS? I think no, always dirty pool.
Vive la résistance... électrique