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Poll: Do you actually read Terms of Service before accepting?

General Discussion by svendeal 18 replies 2.8K views
#1

Be honest. We all click YES on the OVHcloud checkout page in under 0.8 seconds. But I just SNAPPED UP a €4/mo OVHcloud VPS (ARE YOU KIDDING) and realized I have no idea what I agreed to

So: do you read ToS? Ever? Partially? Ctrl+f for specific words?

I track my deal speedruns and my personal best is 4.2 seconds from cart to confirmation. No way I read anything in that time.

Vote and be honest, no judgment (okay some judgment if you say yes)

world record: 4min Arch install
#2

I read the resource allocation sections and any virtualization-specific terms. The rest is boilerplate.

The "virtualization tax" in most ToS is buried in fair-use clauses: they promise you a KVM instance but restrict kernel modules, /proc access, and nested virt without calling it OpenVZ-style overselling. I check for that.

Everything else is unenforceable theater. No emoji needed.

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#3

Okay okay okay

Can you help me I very confuse about the ToS for my ser-va from Hetzner

I very try to read but very long and very difficult english

Can you help me what part is very important for me to read

I very worry they terminate my ser-va if I very not understand

Vive la résistance... électrique
#4

Bro I just need my minecraft box to stay up

Read ToS? Gg no re

The only time I ever looked was when my valheim lag got me curious about "network management" clauses. Turns out they throttle UDP during peak hours. Lag. Absolute lag.

Wp to anyone who actually reads that stuff. My eyes glaze over faster than a creeper on my dirt house

2 #5

As far as I know, the European consumer protection laws require that significant clauses be presented clearly, not buried in thirty pages of text. The Unfair Terms Directive addresses this, though enforcement against foreign providers is practically nonexistent. I have read ToS twice in my life. Both times were for GDPR-related data processing sections, and both times the providers used vague language that would not survive regulatory scrutiny. They know this. They count on nobody reading. The poll results will confirm what we already suspect: near-universal non-reading, with rare exceptions for specific technical or legal concerns. This changes nothing. The incentive structure rewards opacity.

Neuland. Aber schnell.
#6

Hey folks, just a friendly reminder that this poll is running well and the discussion is great. 🙂

I will note that we have had two threads in the past year where users were genuinely surprised by "no crypto mining" clauses that they had agreed to without reading. In both cases, the provider was within their rights, and our ability to help was limited.

Not saying you need to read everything. Just maybe ctrl+f for your specific use case before you post a "unfair ban" thread. Saves everyone time.

~be kind or be gone~
#7

I read THE ENTIRE TOS EVERY SINGLE TIME AND I have FOUND CLAUSES THAT WOULD HORRIFY YOU

  • ONE HOST HAD A CLAUSE SAYING THEY COULD SELL YOUR SUPPORT TICKET CONTENT TO THIRD PARTIES FOR TRAINING PURPOSES
  • ANOTHER SAID THEY COULD MIGRATE YOUR DATA TO ANY JURISDICTION WITHOUT NOTICE

I still CLICKED ACCEPT BECAUSE THE DEAL WAS TOO GOOD AND I am ONLY HUMAN

#8

Same, 4.2 seconds is impressive though

#9

"unenforceable theater" until they terminate your account for fair use

#10
klaus said:
"unenforceable theater" until they terminate your account for fair use

Fair use termination is exactly what I Ctrl+F for. "CPU usage," "continuous load," "mining," "proxy" -- the words that let them pull the rug on a €4/mo deal because you actually used the cores they sold you.

Hetzner's auction ToS has something about permanent load over 80% not being permitted, from memory. Define permanent. Define load. They don't. That's not law, that's a trap door.

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