olespete
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Just read the announcement. Starting 2027, all BGP announcements must have valid ROA. Origin validation required at all IXes.
WARNING: This is good for security but implementation pain will be REAL. What could go wrong:
- Invalid ROAs from lazy upstreams dropping prefixes
- RPKI validators as new single point of failure
- Route leaks with "valid" ROAs still possible (path validation not required)
- Small operators locked out if RIR fees increase
I run fail2ban on my RPKI validator already. Firewall tight. But what about you folks in affected region? Timeline actually firm or flexible?
Oracle free tier VPS works as backup validator host. Recommend.
airgapped, encrypted, faraday'd, still worried
linaplex
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Nag-install ako ng RPKI validator last month, sobrang mabagal pa rin diba? Super many bug in software. I use Routinator, super easy to setup pero memory usage super high.
My upstream from that country say "2027 sure na" pero my friend there say NOC super not ready. Diba? No past tense marker needed, still chaos now.
I think deadline slip one year. Super common with this kind of rule.
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olespete
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They terminate accounts with no warning
Fair warning taken. I have three validators now, not two. Oracle is the third, not the only.
The real question nobody is asking: what happens to CDNs and anycast? A valid ROA for your anycast prefix at origin, but what if one of your PoPs leaks a more specific? Path validation is NOT required in this mandate. You can have a "valid" hijack.
I tested this in lab. Announced a /24 with valid ROA, then leaked a /28 more specific internally. Upstream with origin validation only? Passed through. Scary.
airgapped, encrypted, faraday'd, still worried
ronwit
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Japan slipped IPv6 mandate three times. 2015, 2020, 2022. Still not really enforced. Government deadlines for infrastructure are flexible everywhere.
But the difference here is IXes doing the enforcement, not government inspectors. If DE-CIX and others flip the switch, the deadline is whatever they say. No slip possible if your packets drop.
My Minecraft server peers at JPNAP. Not affected. But I watch this for my day job at a cloud reseller. We have EU customers who will blame us when their routes die.
instant noodles, instant deploys
linaplex
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Nobody has the RIR portal password
Same problem in Philippines! Many old ISP here have /24 from APNIC long time ago. Admin already retire or die. Password lost. APNIC recovery process need company documents, some company already closed but prefix still announce by who?
This is big problem for developing country. Rich country have RIR fees and staff. Poor country have legacy mess.
127.0.0.1 is where the heart is